Group of UTSA students offering porn for "Holy Text"

Their signs appealed to the most basic instincts -- offering a trade of pornography for a holy text. Members of the Atheists Agenda call it an even exchange. (WOAI.com)
Their signs appealed to the most basic instincts -- offering a trade of pornography for a holy text. Members of the Atheists Agenda call it an even exchange. (WOAI.com)
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Updated: 3/02/2010 6:44 pm

SAN ANTONIO - A pornographic giveaway by an atheist group. Even more shocking is what a group is asking people on the UTSA campus to surrender in exchange for porn.

It happened on the UTSA campus up on the Northwest Side. The 'porn exchange' drew student crowds, but many were there in opposition to the exchange.

When we showed up, the crowd had thinned, but there was still plenty of students exchanging ideas.

Their signs appealed to the most basic instincts -- offering a trade of pornography for a holy text. Members of the Atheists Agenda call it an even exchange.

Carlos Morales told us, "It's smut for smut. It's what they call smut for what is actually smut -- which is their religious text."

These provocative claims are meant to draw a lot of discussion.

Counter demonstrations grew in front of the exchange booth. Christians had their own table set up to offer their own perspective.

"I think the Bible is a guide," explained Keisha Davis. "It's something that supposed to help you throughout your life."

The atheist group contends pornography is consentual.

"Unlike religious texts which condone lieing and using violence against different individuals which is the exact opposite of anything peaceful," said Morales.

Some defenders of religion like Hunter Vick questioned why pornography had to be used to grab people's attention.

"Especially from an organization that believes in free thinking or logic," said Vick. "Thought they could have come up with a better way to do that."

UTSA says it's an issue of free speech.

David Gabler of UTSA Public Affairs told us, "We were familiar with what they were going to do and of course what we're going to look at is are they following the rules."

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trutex - 3/4/2010 12:47 PM
I wonder, if someone turns in a Quran, will they handle it only while wearing gloves? Just guessing but I imagine that if someone brought them a Quran they would all piss themselves.

Joe Hill - 3/4/2010 9:07 AM
These young people are fighting for the working man. Religion is just the opium the bosses use to keep the working man in line. Dare to struggle; Dare to Win!

whoaskedyou - 3/4/2010 8:11 AM
Ah, so you're just making these accusations based on watching some 30-second snippet news story. Hypocrit. I would surmise the main intent of this display of theirs was to simply make a point that the content you find in a bible isn't as innocent or holy as religious zealots make it appear. If you actually 'read' the bible, you will find verses that discuss murder, r@pe, incest, and even home$exuality. Some religious philosophers claim that these are false interpretations of what the prophets meant by these statements, but when I read them, their meaning was quite apparent to me.

ElJefe - 3/4/2010 12:06 AM
Well I did not approach the stand of the sinister porn peddlers. And why they wanted to get their hands on hard copies of these sacred texts is beyond me. But I know this.. There is redemption. It may not come by the bylaws or claims of any religion. It might just lie in the ability to stop thinking about oneself. Unfortunately for atheists, they have a long way to go in that endeavor.

whoaskedyou - 3/3/2010 7:58 PM
I'm curious ElJefe, did you actually go over to the college and speak to these individuals, or you just labeling these kids 'idiots' based on a brief news article on WOAI? Reading the article posted on this site, I don't see these students making any statements that are " judgmental, intolerant, abusive and vulgar" Do you find it insulting they are referring to the bible as 'smvt'? That's nothing more than an interpretation. So unless you actually went over and listened to these students voicing their opinions, your assessment of what they were conveying is pointless. BTW, I don't know what your definition is of 'young minds', but unless you're 60 or older, you're not much older than me.

Twitchy Yang - 3/3/2010 6:56 PM
There is a certain zen quality to this set of transactions that I find worthy of contemplation. What we have here is not a failure to communicate, but to exchange extreme differences of opinion, which evolution has determined is a productive way to approach the borders of reality and not die from curiosity. Currently corporations are exploring this method by hiring previously dismissed cultures, labeling it as diversity, and demanding that it be accepted. My personal opinion is that this transaction is a stupid trade, as the pornography is akin to a stock option, with limited value that expires over time, but the spiritual wisdom in a book of admittedly lore lasts longer and contains more information about values. Such is the folly of determination.

ElJefe - 3/3/2010 5:07 PM
Whether we all believe in one God, many different gods, or NO God, there will always be opposing views. And as long as there is intolerance, there will be wars and bloodshed because of 'opposing views'. If you want to insist that all beliefs and viewpoints constitute religion, be my guest, but that's a stretch. And to answer your first three questions.. Yes. KingKong, to clarify, I wasn't asking what merit an Atheist has. I don't have anything against Atheists. These particular ones are being judgmental, intolerant, abusive and vulgar, however. But all people have merit if they choose to. Look, your young minds won't be swayed by me on this blog, and I'm not even asking you to be Christians, or even to like the bible. I'm just pointing out how weak a presentation this was by these idiots. They are obviously not interested in a rational argument. Do they really think they're helping their cause?

brianwho - 3/3/2010 4:57 PM
The same freedom that I have to worship God is the same freedom someone else has to not worship Him. If you expect the campus to start deciding what is proper and what isn't in freedom of speech, soon no one will have that freedom.

whoaskedyou - 3/3/2010 1:15 PM
Intolerance? What is the cause of that intolerance -religion. You're that inane to think that the Isrealies and Iranians have been fighting one another for centuries because of intolerance? You think the Shiites and Kurds are still trying to kill one another in Iraq because of intolerance? If you do, then you are clueless. What do you think the Palestinians have been fighting over for centuries. RELIGIOUS LAND. The kids over at UTSA aren't trying to force anything on anyone. They are making a comparison. They are comparing the content of a porn magazine to the content that's in the bible. They aren't grabbing people by the arms and telling them, "You will take this magazine!". They are allowing anyone who is interested to do a book trade. Plain and simple. Religious zealots are portraying it as an attack because it goes against their beliefs. If you're not interseted, just keep on walking. Do you have a right to CLAIM you're better than someone else? Of course, that's your CONSTITUTIONAL right, not your RELIGIOUS right. However, if you want to make that claim, you better be able to prove it. From what I read from your comments, that would be a false accusation on your part. That's MY opinion.

KingKong - 3/3/2010 12:53 PM
bibles are very interesting books... what I find funny is that certain religions only use sections of books to teach what they want... (kind of like the Texas board of education does) they only want you to read what they want you to know... like why is only a section of the Dead Sea scrolls used in the king James? why only focus on one part? religion causes people to make themselves ignorant, they become simple minded and anything beyond what is in their book is not correct... you said it yourself you are looking for a fact that proves an Atheist have merit… what merit does the bible(s) carry? They are stories written to long ago to be proven and just like most history text books the stories can be altered… like why go from years of living by the rule an eye for an eye to forgive and forget, then condemned Muslims for the so called extreme ways of their religion? You cant do both… (even though some people think they can… ) honestly I do not think that any religion carries any kind of merit… and no one is wrong in having their own beliefs… Christianity is an evolved form of many other religions… with all come back to Jewish… which makes me wonder if people feel they are so holy, why aren't they Jewish like Christ their lord was???
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