Firefighters protest emergency medical training method

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Updated: 9/09/2010 10:46 am
 SAN ANTONIO -- Firefighters are protesting.  The San Antonio Professional Firefighters Association showed up at city chambers Wednesday afternoon to protest the way they learn their life-saving skills.

"Basically you [have] all these rookies that [are] coming out of training academy saying, we didn't learn anything from the health sciences center," said Association President Chris Steele in a meeting with city council.

The city of San Antonio has been contracting its firefighter training through the University of Texas Health Science Center for more than 35 years.  The Association is asking city council to bring emergency medical training "in house," instead of renewing another two year contract with the UT Health Science Center.

"More of a direct one-on-one relationship in training our firefighters to be the best they can be. And that's part of the negotiation process right now," commented City Councilmember John Clamp.

Association officials argue that letting certified firefighters train their own colleagues would keep citizens safer, and save tax payers about a half million dollars a year.

While the Association hopes to transition to in house training within a year, fire department management is pushing for another 2 year contract with the University... "to give us time to fully look at other alternatives... to see if they are truly what is best for the city of San Antonio," said Assistant Fire Chief Carl Wedige.

Officials from UT Health Science Center say they've never had an issue with program quality, and that they're currently in negotiation with the city.

City Council will hold a special meeting next week to discuss firefighter training, and expects to make a decision on whether to renew the contract by the end of this month.
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medic - 9/18/2010 7:13 PM
@DrHart,I am a RN/Paramedic at one of our local trauma centers and I can tell you from first hand experience that SAFD paramedics are not dumb. I don't know what your profession is, but I deal with these guys and girls on a daily basics. I don't know what point you are trying to make, but I have many SAFD friends and the majority of them have degrees, and some work at UTHSCSA and SAC as certified instructors. The media love guys and girls just like you, who could be easily influence by one person statement. If Chief Steel tell you all fireman hate people, would you believe this? You say go green, I worked for Acadian Ambulance part time and the majority of there employees hate it. If the media was correct, over 3800 applicants signed up and took SAFD entrance exam this week, how many people are in line to work for Acadian? No disrespect, I believe you are a business person with a plan. GOD BLESS.

DrHart - 9/17/2010 11:03 AM
@Medic - Bravo - Test downgrade the San Antonio Fire Department's Education from a Medical University to an internal union run class. Lets let the class be taught by people who "know nothing" per president chief Steal. I am very much in favor on dumbing down the education standards for SAFD. Lets start that 600 hour class proposed by Steal - his years of paramedic experience will surely pay dividends. Dare I say Go Green San Antonio. @Knowthetruth - Go Green - I am just a satirical environmentalist at heart- Go Green.

Knowthetruth - 9/16/2010 9:05 PM
@medic. 1)I'm all for negotiation: with the right parties involved. And not the Firefighters Union who has questionable motives. 2)If you feel the city has failed by not taking bids, go file your complaint: but in the world of government contracts, if there was another EMS education system that felt that they were not getting a fair shot at the pie...charges would have been levied years ago. 3) Are you implying that a stated sponsored academic institution is dealing under the table...pray tell you have some shred of evidence and not just your rhetoric to influence us with.

medic - 9/16/2010 6:45 PM
@Knowthetruth;enough.As a TAXPAYER I want the best service for the best price, if this means negotiation, so be it.If the city been using UTHSCSA for over 30yr with a multi million dollar contract and this contract was never up for bid, then I wan't an investigation done for possible criminal activity.As a true TAXPAYER it is very disturbing to know a multi million dollar contract was just given to someone without bidding.( I wonder who's getting a cut).. Let's see how many taxpayers agree with this besides you...

Knowthetruth - 9/15/2010 3:13 PM
Why is the city giving into the Firefighters Union, and is now having the UTHSCSA deal directly with the Union: in the negotiation of the new contract? As a tax payer, I want the city to conduct its own buisness and not turn it over to a special interest group.

Knowthetruth - 9/13/2010 8:23 PM
the citizens of the city do not suffer because of the stupidity of certain members of the Firefighters Union. Brother and sisters I hope you are reading this. Next post we will get back to the warped motivation of the Firefighters Union upper echelon. Until then, don’t act unless you Know The Truth!

Knowthetruth - 9/13/2010 8:20 PM
I take a weekend getaway to political waters of Lake LBJ and I return to such flattery. Thank you Dr Hart, you are too kind. But I don’t think I can cease and desist in regard to the current topic at hand. You take care not to tip your hand, and I do not have a problem with that. It shows a business savviness that is certainly lacking within the Firefighters Union. Allow me to explain my interpretation of your words. 1).The major topic is the EMS service provided in San Antonio. 2) There are multiple entities who are interested in such a service. 3). Twice you have mentioned “Green”. 4) Acadian Ambulance Company main color is green, and it’s no secret that they would like a contract to run the EMS service in San Antonio. 5) While I am not privy to their business plan it is clear that it’s well thought out and progressing. The MediAlert system that Acadian has put in place, and being marketed to the elderly of San Antonio is a master piece. Promoting the company , and putting the company in a position to be recognized as a major player of EMS in San Antonio is a solid business strategy. I have access to a bit more information, but wasting space on this site will not add to the fact that a clever movement is afoot to affect change. What the macher’s and luftmensh’s of the Firefighters Union cannot see, is that this change will have a negative impact on the EMS (unionized paramedic jobs) in the city of San Antonio. And that UTHSCSA is a strong card in their hand to ward off such an action, should it come to bear. Now Dr Hart, with all due respect, if what I have said sounds like I am against such a proposed business plan by another entity……I am not. I am open to all ideas and willing to go with whatever system is best for the citizens of San Antonio. If indeed your business goals benefit the citizens of San Antonio, I look forward to perhaps meeting in person. I will certainly not seek to hinder your goals, but for the time being I must do what I can so that

medic - 9/12/2010 9:23 PM
@DrHart, not with my tax dollars, but good thought.

DrHart - 9/11/2010 9:14 AM
My dear knowthetruth, while I respect your objectivity and indepth unbiased analysis of the truly absurd nature of the the Unions position - I respectively request that you not continue. Your literacy and insight holds the potential to influence. I need the SAFD-UTHSCSA contract to fail. I have been trying to affiliate with the UTHSCSA for several years, however they have remained loyal to the city, if the city releases them, I will be able to establish another important contract on the path of fulfilliing my buisness goals. Go Green Everyone.

Knowthetruth - 9/11/2010 1:11 AM
Today, while walking the municipal grounds of our fair city, more than one person brought to my attention the fact that the Firefighters Union had indeed a business plan. I was shown an article that had the Firefighters Union stewardship claiming they can take the $2,000,000 EMS training budget, and do a better job for $400,000. Now before we get too excited about such a savings for the city, bear in mind that with such fiscal savviness , these union stewards won’t be hear long. I dare say that the Obama administration has a recruitment team on their way here to have these economic whiz kids fix our nations’ economy. I would like to remind our readers who have military backgrounds the results that often occur when the contract is awarded to the lowest bid. All too frequently the product fails to live up the performance standards that are promised. Can we afford to have that happen with our EMS service…I think not! Unless I get side tracked with other public business, in the next posting we will examine what possible motivational factors are driving the Firefighters Union Gang of 4 (actually, there is more) to declare war on the UTHSCSA.
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