Greenway trail riders, gun club members navigate safety concerns

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Updated: 9/20/2012 10:24 pm
SAN ANTONIO – Picture this: you’re out riding your bike or walking your dog on a city trail and all of a sudden, you hear gunfire.

It’s a reality on the northwest side where one of the city’s newest hike, bike and walk trails runs parallel to a trap shooting range.

It’s along the Leon Creek system on a section of the trail that winds between Hausman Road and UTSA Boulevard.

The gun range, the San Antonio Target Hunting and Fishing Club, has been there more than 50 years.

In fact, the city really grew around it – including the new trail system.

Even though the club’s open only two days a week, the range and the trail have made for strange bedfellows, and now some people who use the trail want the city to make the situation safer.

“We’ve never had an accident,” club president Beto Camarillo says. “Knock on wood. We’ve never had an accident.”

The pop of a shotgun and the spin of a bicycle wheel coexist just a few hundred yards apart.

“This is one of the best things the city could have ever done for the community,” bicyclist Kem Cummings says about the greenway trail. “About a month ago I was riding through here and I hear all these popping noises."

That’s when Cummings noticed a clearing on the trail where he spotted the gun range.

"We're not worried because we shoot away from [the greenway],” Camarillo says.

Camarillo took News 4 for a walk away from the club and into the woods.

“This is a trail that people made,” he says.

Cummings took us on the same walk, but from up above, starting at the greenway.

"If you look, there's a trail down here,” Cummings says. "There are people walking through these things all the time."

They’re off-road paths connecting the greenway to the gun range.

“They come through here mostly on bicycles,” Camarillo says.

Both the bicyclist and the shooter view the paths as a shared problem.

"You don't want anyone to go through your land,” Camarillo says.

That’s why the club posted “no trespassing” signs warning off-roaders about live ammo nearby. Camarillo says chances are slim anyone would get shot.

"A shotgun is just a bunch of BBs together,” Camarillo says. “They fall just like rain back there.”

Cummings say the club has done all it can to protect its property, but is still worried.

“Accidents happen,” Cummings says.

He wants the city to post signs, not just at the trailhead, but all along the greenway, to warn families about the dangers of blazing their own trails.

"Stick a sign right here that says 'active gun range,’” Cummings says.

The city’s Parks and Recreation Department says the proximity was taken into consideration during construction of the greenway and so far, there have been no complaints.

The city also says there are a sufficient number of signs posted along the way.
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BerthaLaFrance - 10/14/2012 10:24 PM
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OK, as I understand the video essay, the gun club has been there over 50 years? Without an accident? Seems to me that's a good thing. If there is development and City-built running trails springing up around the grounds, I would hope the City allows the club to continue operations. One would think that all gun clubs adhere to strict safety procedures with this particular club being no different as evidenced by its sterling record. It appears the club has gone to great lengths to post "no trespassing" signs on its property. Yet, bikers and joggers still leave the adjacent City-built trails and opt to trespass on the club's property making their own trails instead. Perhaps these trespassers are the ones who should be the subject of a sensationalized news story, rather than the gun club. Did I miss something significant in the news story. I really don't think there's a safety issue here. If anything, seems that the real issue is one of trespassing that could have awful consequences. Was this story an attempt to "make news" where none exists?

trutex - 9/22/2012 11:22 AM
3 Votes
You probably heard semi-automatic shotgun fire. When shooting multiple clays one uses an autoloading shotgun and fires multiple times in rapid succession.

PeekABoo - 9/21/2012 4:46 PM
1 Vote
i should have said "rapid fire"...not like machine gun, but not shot gun...hell, maybe THAT didn't even make sense LOL

PeekABoo - 9/21/2012 4:41 PM
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question... do those who shoot there ONLY use shot guns? i've been out there and heard what sounds like semi-auto or handgun fire out there, much different than just shot gun fire. that was what my point was about, but yes, LT, you are correct. shot gun pellets don't travel that far.

Wormster - 9/21/2012 4:36 PM
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I'm sure glad that I own a shotgun & 4 wheel drive instead of a bicycle. But what ever it takes to get these bicyclist off of the streets. Keep your weird a$$ in Austin!

catwalk0826 - 9/21/2012 4:25 PM
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@losttarget...Sounds logical...Why didn't WOAI find this out before they wrote this articile? Or the person who complained about it to WOAI..

LostTarget - 9/21/2012 4:12 PM
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RE: a bullet ricochets Clay target shooting (small BB like pellets, not bullets) and no ricochets possible at that distance. Most clay target ranges have a 300 yard shot fall zone. Shot does not travel that distance, just an added safey factor. If your a football field away, your well outside any danger zone!

Talula - 9/21/2012 4:08 PM
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That was Real Smart (wink, wink) of the cc to put that bike trail near a gun club. Kind of like the city Geniuses who installed tens or more? Thousands of dollars worth of exercise equipment in local parks, etc. OUTSIDE in the elements.."to rust & for the birds to poop on".. according to friends who frequent Comanche Park. Iow, Stupid is as Stupid does, with Whose money?

catwalk0826 - 9/21/2012 3:27 PM
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let me understand this...gun club has been there for 50 years and the City knew it...now someone (most likely a biker) just had to complain. OH my! You just had to know this would happen. Now the City Council is going to demand the gun club close for safety reasons. You could see this coming. What a plan!

camidawg - 9/21/2012 3:05 PM
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Big whoop. I hear gunshots going off all the time less than 100 yds away when I ride my bike on the East Side...

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